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Moebius Squared

So -- Moebius Squared! Anybody read it? Anybody got any thoughts? Questions? Comments?

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kickstand75
Jan. 12th, 2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
I have it.....but I've been side tracked from everything else by a smallish book of 900 pages that I've been waiting 17 years to read called Wheel of Time. lol. All other reading will resume in approximately 200 pages.... ;)
jo_graham
Jan. 13th, 2013 12:03 pm (UTC)
Heh. I hope the end of Wheel of Time goes well!
kickstand75
Jan. 13th, 2013 04:54 pm (UTC)
whew 900 page book - done! Conclusion = epically satifying. Now back to early 1800's France to finish reading about a certain blonde, then onto Moebius :)

Edited at 2013-01-13 04:59 pm (UTC)
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jo_graham
Jan. 13th, 2013 12:03 pm (UTC)
It should be soon. Not this coming week, but possibly next week!
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Erick Brockway
Jan. 12th, 2013 08:29 pm (UTC)
About 22% complete (time is my issue, I read a chapter and pass out with my Kindle on my face). Good thing I watched the Moebius episodes first to get everything straight in my head first! Daniel/Danyel works pretty good, though.
jo_graham
Jan. 13th, 2013 12:07 pm (UTC)
That's the thing that was the biggest challenge to us. On the screen you'd look at the actors with different haircuts and say, "Oh, Daniel with really short hair is the AU one and Daniel with longer hair like in Continuum is the regular one, and Sam with the pony tail is our universe and Sam with the pixie cut is the AU one, and Teal'c who shaves his head is the AU one and Teal'c with hair is our Teal'c." And after a couple of minutes you wouldn't have any trouble telling them apart. But we tried that and it was completely ponderous, describing "short haired Sam" every time she spoke! It was just too awkward and clunky.

So we settled on "Sam" is AU Sam and "Carter" is our Sam, and then tried to work it out with the Daniels and the Teal'cs.
raduancairinel
Jan. 13th, 2013 01:05 pm (UTC)
Nice work!
Although I am mostly a SGA fan, due to Todd/Guide and McKay mostly, I really liked the book. The Tok'ra backstory was a nice bonus, although I would have liked even more Tok'ra action in the book, but I understand that the main characters are the ones that have to receive most focus.
I found that the whole of the story integrates quite well in the Stargate history as I have come to understand it.
Most of all, I liked the way the characters are written. I could almost see them, as I read on, as if it were a film.
Now I can hardly wait for the last book of Legacy to come out, much as I regret that it is the last of the series. I can only hope that perhaps more may come in the future, something along the lines of "the Blade of Altlantis" you spoke of once.
In the meantime, I also look forward to Ouroboros (more Todd), the next volumes in the Order of the Air series (at least it's a long series I hope to enjoy in the following years) and I also hope Lifeboat will soon appear.
About Lifeboat, I really liked the fragment that I read. There's something about it that puts me in mind of John Brunner's Polymath writings, at least as far as the initial setting is concerned. I would really like to see your take on such a situation. Perhaps a little fragment could make its way into one of your next posts?
Ok, so I've deviated quite a bit from the subject, feel free to give a TL;DR answer.
jo_graham
Jan. 14th, 2013 10:12 am (UTC)
Re: Nice work!
I'm very glad you enjoyed it! Moebius Squared was a lot of fun to do. It was written between Secrets and The Inheritors, so it does kind of come off as backstory for the Legacy series. Daniel's right that the answers were never on Earth -- they're out there, where Sam is going, in the Pegasus Galaxy. And in a year she'll have more of them. What happened to the Ancients? Well, we know more than they do now, don't we? But Sam is right when she tells Ai that it's not all lost and gone. Her many times great-granddaughter will return to Atlantis, one of the inheritors.

I'm so glad you like the Order of the Air too! Steel Blues will be out April 1, and I think it's even better than Lost Things. Right now I'm working on the third book.

It makes me very happy that you remember and like that little piece of Lifeboat. We're working on rewrites now and they're kicking our butts. It's really good to hear that we should hang in there and work on it. Thank you. Truly.
aeryn_b
Jan. 13th, 2013 02:52 pm (UTC)
Things I liked: The story flowed naturally and logically. Really great. :) I wanted to rewatch "Moebius" before reading but I couldn't find my dvds so I just started on the book. I felt like I understood the story well enough to get through. (I imagine it would've made even more sense if I'd rewatched "Moebius" though. haha.) The Tokra backstory was cool! So many twists and turns. And I liked that you separated the teams and created interesting pairings like AU Jack and Vala, Danyel and Carter, AU Sam and Teal'c. And Carolyn! You wrote her very believably. I liked her and Cam flying the ship together.

Things I would've liked: More Vala, more Cam, more Daniel/Vala, less Sam/Jack. I know I'm in the minority, but I prefer Season 9 and 10 of SG-1. And I prefer the Daniel/Vala friendship, relationship, dynamic (whatever you want to call it) to the Sam/Jack equivalent. I realize this book is focused on Sam's upcoming decision about the Hammond, and I really did like that angle. So I'm ok with it not having a lot of Vala backstory, I guess I'm just commenting on what I like.

Overall, really great book. I read it right away and it's been a couple of weeks, but I think that was my impression when I was done. :) I can't wait til the book-book comes out. E-books are good, but I like dog-earring pages for favorite sections, or leafing back when I'm confused and want to reread something.

EDIT: I also noticed some typos and grammatical errors here and there. Nothing overly stupid, just stuff that made me mentally hiccup and stumble. I don't have any fancy or professional credentials, but if you'd ever like another set of eyes to help find such typos as "trial" vs. "trail" (the ones a wordprocessor spell checker would miss) or if a quotation mark is curved the wrong way, I'd love to help. :)

Edited at 2013-01-13 10:02 pm (UTC)
jo_graham
Jan. 14th, 2013 10:21 am (UTC)
I'm glad you enjoyed the book! I'm glad that it made sense even if you hadn't rewatched recently. It was fun to break things up and put people in some new combinations. I always wanted to see Vala and Jack interact more, and this was a good opportunity. And Carolyn is kind of underused, so it was nice to give her a chance to do the cool stuff.

Yeah, I wish there had been more room for Vala too. I love Vala but since this was really Sam's book she kind of had a supporting role. If there are more books in the future I'm really tempted by the idea of pitching a Vala-centric book, maybe based on things that happened when she was a host or immediately thereafter. But Vala sort of followed me home and wormed her way into Steel Blues, my 1920s adventure book that's coming out in April. I just posted a piece of that with "the Countess", our favorite jewel thief!
aeryn_b
Jan. 14th, 2013 08:53 pm (UTC)
If there are more books in the future I'm really tempted by the idea of pitching a Vala-centric book, maybe based on things that happened when she was a host or immediately thereafter.
I would read that in a heartbeat! Seriously! She really is one of my favorite Stargate characters. Lively, funny, thinking outside the box, flirty, sort of an anti-hero but still lovable. Haha. I could go on and on. Maybe I should check out Steel Blues. Sounds like it could be fun. :)

Good luck with future Stargate projects. I'm looking forward to anything more you have to offer. :)
jo_graham
Jan. 16th, 2013 10:24 am (UTC)
I really like Vala, and I think it would be interesting to do a Vala centric book set right after Moebius Squared. But that's all up in the air right now.

I think you'd like Stasi in Steel Blues. I posted a scene from it with Stasi the other day.
mkatlantis_13
Jan. 13th, 2013 03:59 pm (UTC)
Spoilers!

I *LOVED* the idea of Egeria as a time traveler! I have to say, my brain took the entire book to understand how she was one. (My brain was fixated on hairless Teal'c already being in the past, forgetting that he was actually from the present. Apparently I was slow that day.)

And, Ancients on Earth, living in Japan. The scene where they activate the puddlejumper and see that there are numerous messages left on the communication system was great. I got all tingly when I read that. Loved it.

More stargate books! Eagerly awaiting the last of the Legacy books!
jo_graham
Jan. 14th, 2013 10:25 am (UTC)
I'm glad you like Egeria being a time traveler! I was watching the episode where they find her, and I was like, "Why is she trusting these people she just met like this?" and then I started to wonder if perhaps she'd met them before?

I'm so happy I caused a tingle! :) I love the Ancients on Earth, gradually losing themselves in the population, the ATA gene becoming a recessive that appears in little pools where they once were. And Sam is right -- one day Ai's many times great granddaughter will walk back through the gate to Atlantis, and systems will initialize when she touches them....
aeryn_b
Aug. 31st, 2013 10:29 pm (UTC)
I know it's been forever, but I bought a paperback copy at a convention a few weeks ago and just reread it in the last two days. Loved it all over again!!

One thing I wondered this time around was, what's going to happen to Marik and the Tok'ra? Did Marik get punished/scolded? Egeria didn't have time to spawn, so are the Tok'ra still going to die out soon? Maybe you're setting up for a sequel. *crosses fingers*

I've read some other posts in your LJ about the SGA Legacy series and that you're getting (or have gotten) permission to do a couple more of those books. Do you think you'll ever jump back and do another SG-1 novel? Like that Vala-centric one you were thinking about before. Or do you know of any other Fandemonium authors who are writing more SG-1 novels, maybe set post-Continuum also? Or maybe season 9, something Cam-centric maybe, dealing with the Ori or the Ancients? I must admit that I'm craving more SG-1 adventures from Season 9, 10 and onward. Stories with Daniel, Vala, Cam and Teal'c, Sam too of course if she isn't too busy elsewhere. ;)
jo_graham
Sep. 3rd, 2013 11:12 am (UTC)
Hi! It was really nice to meet you at the con!

I'm sure Marik did indeed get punished, though having his best friends killed by the Goa'uld in the past was certainly punishment enough for his stupidity. Bringing Egeria or her spawn into the future didn't work, so nothing has changed for the Tok'ra, except that the timeline was preserved by Egeria getting offworld in the past with her first host.

I hope we're going to be able to do two more Legacy books. Beyond that, I have no idea! I'd love to do a Vala book someday. I do know that a friend of mine, Geonn Cannon, has a proposal for a book that focuses on Vala and Sam, which I think would be awesome!
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