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Unascended

A reader asks, "Can you post a piece of Unascended?"

Not yet! We just got the green light a few days ago! We're still in the dividing it up part. But I can tell you a few things.



1. Unascended takes place only a few months after the end of Inheritors, so very little has changed for our friends since the end of the book. Mostly they've repaired and regrouped.

2. The only big difference is that the Hammond has left for the Milky Way, so Sam and Cadman aren't in Atlantis. This is because the Hammond is facing the Lucian Alliance in Stargate Universe set at this same time, so they can't be in two places at once!

3. Lorne is off his crutches and back on fully active duty.

4. Jack has gone home. Daniel is still here.

5. Rodney's hair is still white. He's considering Grecian Formula for Men.

6. There has been no word from Jennifer since she left with Todd.

7. I think the structure will be a lot like The Lost, where I wrote the plot with John, Carson, Teyla and the ancient warship and Amy wrote Ronon, Jennifer and Todd. So look for Amy to write Ronon and the team exploring. Look for me to write Elizabeth.

I will gladly post some teasers as we go!

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wabbitseason
Nov. 5th, 2013 02:41 pm (UTC)
Will Unascended make sense without Inheritors?

(And I need an Atlantis icon again...)
amygriswold
Nov. 5th, 2013 07:32 pm (UTC)
geonncannon
Nov. 5th, 2013 03:57 pm (UTC)
It's like the start of a new season! A lot of big things are fixed, but there's an ongoing thread of continuity. I can't wait! :D
jo_graham
Nov. 5th, 2013 07:08 pm (UTC)
A lot like the beginning of a new season. This is season seven! :D
geonncannon
Nov. 5th, 2013 07:09 pm (UTC)
A little sad that we won't get any scenes between Carter and Weir, but that's SGU's fault, not yours. ;D
jo_graham
Nov. 5th, 2013 07:14 pm (UTC)
Yeah, sadly! But there's canon -- we know where Sam is and what she's doing, so it's not really possible for her to be in Unascended.
geonncannon
Nov. 5th, 2013 07:17 pm (UTC)
Indeed! It seems like the Stargate canon conspires to keep Sam and Elizabeth from interacting. It's like the fact that Teal'c and McKay have never been in the same scene together (to my knowledge, every on-screen crossover had one or the other missing or AWOL. I think even on "Midway" they found a way that the two never crossed paths)
angelsallfire
Nov. 5th, 2013 05:55 pm (UTC)
I can totally see Rodney trying to dye his hair but completely bungling it, making it Bozo-orange, or something of the like.
wabbitseason
Nov. 5th, 2013 06:14 pm (UTC)
*mental image of Rodney as Beaker*
angelsallfire
Nov. 5th, 2013 06:51 pm (UTC)
Precisely!
jo_graham
Nov. 5th, 2013 07:08 pm (UTC)
Heh. I think if he does it, it will work out. Rodney's had enough trauma!
gelbes_gilatier
Nov. 5th, 2013 08:28 pm (UTC)
Aw, quasi spoilers :D

2. The only big difference is that the Hammond has left for the Milky Way, so Sam and Cadman aren't in Atlantis.

A sad thing... but that leaves room for fic :D (or, well, other tie-in novels *coughs)

3. Lorne is off his crutches and back on fully active duty.

\o/ I actually love that you kept him on crutches for such a long time, seeing as in the show it was never really addressed how long it takes for stuff like that to heal (see Lorne's broken leg in Search and Rescue, various Sheppard injuries, etc.) and I like it when authors keep it realistic. But yay, it's good to know that he can go back to being a BAMF :D
jo_graham
Nov. 6th, 2013 01:47 pm (UTC)
It does! It leaves lots of room for fic and other tie-ins! In fact, there is another group of authors who are hoping to get approval to continue the adventures of the Hammond in the Milky Way. I can't say anymore about that, since it's not my book and it's not green lighted yet as far as I know, but they are awesome!

I'm glad you like Lorne on crutches! A funny story about that -- I was writing The Furies at the same time that Melissa and Amy were writing Allegiance, and when I read their section with the attack on the city, I went, "OMG, you have screwed Lorne up good!" Because I had Lorne hopping all over the place doing stuff about a week and a half later in The Furies! So I had to go back and rewrite a bunch of stuff, including Cadman being the one to go with Ronon's team to the island because obviously Lorne wasn't going to do it when he'd just had surgery on his leg! It turned out better, because I think that whole sequence was better with Cadman than it would have been with Lorne.
gelbes_gilatier
Nov. 6th, 2013 11:35 pm (UTC)
there is another group of authors who are hoping to get approval to continue the adventures of the Hammond in the Milky Way

Ooooh! And I take it it's in the same continuity as Legacy?

It turned out better, because I think that whole sequence was better with Cadman than it would have been with Lorne.

It absolutely did. I adored all the Cadman scenes in the Legacy books and I loved it that she had her moments to shine. But I'll totally be glad that Lorne's back to being a bad ass ;)

Also, I think I need to go back and look at my notes for the last two or three Legacy books and skim for potential fic... um.
jo_graham
Nov. 7th, 2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
I think? I don't know all the details of their proposal. I haven't seen it, just chatted a little at a con.

I'm really glad Cadman got her moments, including the section on the hive ship in Inheritors. She's really coming into her own, stepping up as Carter did in second season, and I like her as Carter's protege. I think there's some interesting stuff there.

But thankfully Lorne will be off crutches, so he can do more in Unascended. I'm looking forward to that.
kahva
Nov. 6th, 2013 03:07 am (UTC)
5. Rodney's hair is still white. He's considering Grecian Formula for Men.

I am SO glad I put down my Mountain Dew before I read that! :) :)
jo_graham
Nov. 6th, 2013 01:48 pm (UTC)
Heh! Poor Rodney. I think we've given him a rough enough time. He needs some good stuff in Unascended.
mari4212
Nov. 6th, 2013 10:40 am (UTC)
*continues dancing at Elizabeth's returning in any form* Now that it's all official, I've got a friend I need to drag back into Atlantis, as the Elizabeth situation was what made her stop watching the show. Which, fair enough, was also what made me stop actively watching the show as well.
jo_graham
Nov. 6th, 2013 01:49 pm (UTC)
I'm really glad we get to bring Elizabeth back. I'm looking forward so much to writing her flashback scenes. Her world of NGOs in DC is so much my own life experience.
mari4212
Nov. 6th, 2013 02:06 pm (UTC)
Elizabeth was the first character in the Stargate shows that I could point to and say that she was like me, or that I'd want to be like her at that point in my life. I liked Sam, but there was no way I could ever picture myself with Sam's life, and I never wanted to be like her. I'm so not military, and my experience with Physics is getting a D in it all three times I took it in college. I'm also not the girl who mostly had male friends. Just, in general I'm not the Artemis or Athena archetype, and those types tend to be pretty dominant in a lot of sci-fi books and shows.

Elizabeth got to be different, got to be awesome without having to be the one holding onto a gun, got to do things like diplomacy and management and other people-skill related things.

And we're getting flashbacks of her history in Washington? *dances more* Elizabeth backstory!
jo_graham
Nov. 7th, 2013 03:30 pm (UTC)
Elizabeth shares a lot of my real world background, and she resonated immediately to me as someone I would know. (I'm much more like Teyla in personality than Elizabeth.) It's going to be really interesting to write her flashback sections!
tielan
Nov. 6th, 2013 11:44 am (UTC)
*hopes there will be good Teyla & Elizabeth interaction*
jo_graham
Nov. 6th, 2013 01:50 pm (UTC)
I think there will be in the second book. I don't think Teyla and Elizabeth will be in the same place at all in Unascended. And that's a plot spoiler, isn't it? :D
draco_stellaris
Nov. 6th, 2013 01:41 pm (UTC)
I'm incredibly happy to hear there will be more books! In the meantime after Inheritors, I read Moebius Squared and Ouroboros and enjoyed both books immensely, but at the same time I was wishing Legacy would continue as well. Wish granted! :D
jo_graham
Nov. 6th, 2013 01:52 pm (UTC)
Oh good! I'm glad you liked Moebius Squared and Ouroboros. I'm curious what you thought of Snow's hive?
draco_stellaris
Nov. 7th, 2013 05:46 pm (UTC)
The bits of Snow's hive were a pleasure to read, a hive like it's supposed to function, at the height of its power and not yet influenced by Wraith civil war. Guide's short-tempered personality seems to differ much from his usual mature self. This Guide has quite a few flaws and is overly confident of himself, methinks. I don't think this one would ever consider agreeing to an alliance with the Lanteans. And Alabaster has much still to learn. Both are definitely lacking their experience with living among humans. I very much liked Guide's counterpart, Seeker. It would've been a treat to read more about the hive. And to learn what happened to poor, bold Will (I don't remember his Wraith name, not sure if it was mentioned at all) after his and Alabaster's return to the hive.
jo_graham
Nov. 7th, 2013 06:12 pm (UTC)
That's what I liked too -- the hive as it's supposed to work, with everyone in their functional relationships rather than making do. And a scary lot, Snow and her zenana, when they meet the team for the exchange!

Guide has never been captured by the Genii. I think he learned patience in prison. But that's never happened in this world.

I love Seeker and Spark and Seldom Seen! I wish the entire book could have been the hive. (Er, Melissa, how about that?) :D
draco_stellaris
Nov. 10th, 2013 02:45 pm (UTC)
Agreed, Snow and her men are a very scary lot. And here's another vote for having an entire book about Snow's hive, Melissa! :D

But of course, I also liked the bits about the humans. ;)
jo_graham
Nov. 11th, 2013 09:31 am (UTC)
Humans, bah! :D

I really do want more of the hive. I just loved that part. And there's a chance there will be more of it, if a certain project comes to fruition. (I can't announce it yet, because it might not happen.)
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