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Silver Bullet Spoiler Post

Silver Bullet is out in ebook, and the print book is coming soon. This is the spoiler post for people who want to talk about any of Silver Bullet's big developments. That means there will be spoilers in the comments!

So what do you think of the big developments?

1. Iskinder
2. the medallion that may be the key to the Soma
3. Pelley
4. Alma and Lewis' baby!
5. Mitch and Stasi!

Or Tesla! :)

Comments

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marag
Feb. 14th, 2014 11:50 am (UTC)
I'm only a bit over halfway, so I'm not going to look at the spoilers above, but I would like to say that the guys Jerry encounters at the party sound *remarkably* like today's GOP. Which is probably not a coincidence ;)

I'm loving the historical context and Stasi and Mitch's growing relationship especially. Worried for Alma and the baby, but I'm hoping that Stasi's reading is correct.
jo_graham
Feb. 14th, 2014 12:14 pm (UTC)
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The headlines from the early thirties could be last year.

I think one of the things that strikes me so much is the rising tide of oppositional thinking, which Pelley introduced as a theme in his conversation with Mitch -- "the whole world is squaring off, White against Brown, men against women, Jew versus Gentile." The idea that on every front there is a rising tide of incivility, of belief that one can only survive by "winning", whatever that is. And Mitch replies, "I think we can help each other." He and Alma aren't enemies in the battle of the sexes, but friends. Jerry and Iskinder aren't at war. Stasi and Lewis aren't facing off. The wars don't have to be, and the only winners will be the ones who don't play.

But how do you not play when the whole world is careening ever closer to literal war? When democracies are falling under the weight of their people's desire to kill one another and scapegoat?

I'm glad you're enjoying Stasi and Mitch. She actually managed to tell him the truth once or twice! :) Any speculation on what her real story is?
marag
Feb. 14th, 2014 12:26 pm (UTC)
I'd probably vote with Mitch on the Hungarian Jew if I had to guess.
jo_graham
Feb. 14th, 2014 12:29 pm (UTC)
Mitch is certainly making an educated guess! Her name is certainly neither Anastasia Rostov nor Judy Denisov. What is it that made you think he was right?
marag
Feb. 14th, 2014 12:34 pm (UTC)
More knowing you than anything in the book :) It seemed like a kind of character you'd be interested in.
melita66
Feb. 17th, 2014 09:15 am (UTC)
I think the series is just getting better and better!

I was very surprised that Mitch and Stasi hooked up so quickly, or at least that what it seemed like to me. I thought you might spin out that thread over several books. I was even more surprised that she accepted his proposal. But it was a different time.
jo_graham
Feb. 17th, 2014 10:28 pm (UTC)
I am so glad you like it! :)

Mitch and Stasi -- I'd sworn I'd never end a book with a wedding, but this was the exception. It was what they'd do. And to artificially keep it dangling with misunderstandings and barriers seemed, well, mean. Of course just having an established relationship doesn't answer all the questions! She still hasn't told him hardly anything about her past, and she's left out some really big things! So there's a lot of stuff ahead for them that's not resolved by a wedding ring.

That said, it's the marriage that gives Stasi the courage to stick around. He's said, in no uncertain terms, that he's serious about having her back forever, and that he absolutely thinks she's "good enough." That means a tremendous amount to her. His trust isn't something she'll squander. And so she'll stay and try to make this work rather than move on in the spring.
sockich
Feb. 17th, 2014 07:56 pm (UTC)
Okay, it took longer than expected, but I finally had the time to read it today, so here comes the incoherent flailing.

Ahem. I love this book. I love the characters and the universe, that's been true since the first one, but I loved this book all on its own. I loved how it was...I don't want to say smaller, because there are clearly big things happening just off stage, and there was plenty of adventure on stage, but we got to see the characters just living their lives, which are always some of my favourite parts with characters I love. So that was great. :D

I need to skip to the end for a moment and say Mitch and Stasi! Hearts upon hearts! I love their relationship, I love how right they are for each other and how much respect and affection and tenderness and joy there is between them, I love all that, and now I'm going to ignore all those wonderful things and tell you all about how much I loved everything about that sex scene! ;) I'm not kidding when I say I have been waiting for that since the first time I realized what the deal was with Mitch and then Stasi showed up and I knew she could be right for Mitch, they could be right for each other and here it is and it was everything I was hoping for and ugh, I just love it so much (and I love, love, love the conversation between Stasi and Alma. love it). ♥

But, as much as I love Mitch and Stasi, Lewis and Alma will forever be my favourite and I am so, so happy for them! Yay for Isadora Mary!

Let's see, what else. Oh, yeah, Tesla was great, as was Iskinder (I can't wait to see more of him) and Pelley was the exact opposite of great (as a person. as a character he's very effective, assuming we're meant to want to punch him in the face and take a shower to wash away the gross all while being aware of the many people who share his ideas today) and I will dread (but with excitement) seeing him again.

Oooh, question! The guy Pelley's after, who played a role in big events over and over again and was shot by a firing squad in 1815 = Michel/Neas/Hephaistion/etc.? Currently...George Patton, I think? Beatrice's husband, anyway. Y/N? And I figure the medallion is connected to all of that somehow (I mean, I seriously doubt they just want the treasure, Jerry :p).

...in conclusion, much love, can't wait for the next one!
jo_graham
Feb. 17th, 2014 11:04 pm (UTC)
Thank you, thank you so much! I'm delighted you enjoyed it this much!

It is a "smaller" book in that most of the action is in Colorado and NY, not all over the world or coast to coast. And it's more focused on ordinary events rather than the chance of a lifetime, so it's kind of different that way. But no less important! Sometimes adventures are close to home!

I'm so happy you like Mitch and Stasi! I'm really glad that it works that they seem right for each other, and that this relationship seems organic. They've got a lot to overcome, and still do, but I'm glad the reader is rooting for them to win! I'm so pleased the sex scene works. It really needed to be full, not drawing the curtain on the scene, because it had to be clear HOW it worked, and that it does work because they're both willing to be unconventional. They may seem like a very "normal" straight couple, but they aren't.

Yay Isadora Mary! Dora is going to become a regular character.

Tesla was fun. Melissa wrote most of him as well as most of Iskinder, who I thought just rocked. No Iskinder in the fourth book, Wind Raker, but he's driving the main plot in the fifth book, Oath Bound. So he'll be back.

Pelley -- oh yes, Pelley is our recurring villain. He'll be around for quite a while! He's also a real person.

And oh my. Aren't you on the ball? Oh my. You have indeed done your homework to get to that question! :D I didn't think any reader would get there before the first third of Wind Raker! Yes, Pelley is after Michel/Hephaistion, and that person is currently George Patton. This is a poem Patton wrote in the early 1930s, for real. And so the author can't help but ask the question, "What if everything he believed about himself were true?" He and Bea are both major characters in Wind Raker, and this plot is absolutely critical.

What does the medallion have to do with it? Hummmm. Consider the stanzas that begin "See the...."

:D
mkatlantis_13
Feb. 18th, 2014 07:28 am (UTC)
Love the book! Can't wait for Wind Raker!

I'm interested in the baby that might have been Jerry's. No one so far has mentioned that. That is a great twist, not really knowing who the father of that past child was, Gil or Jerry. I'm sure that the thought comes to them (Alma and Jerry) from time to time, but it strikes me that neither of them really talk about it until this book. Do either of them think of that lost life as one more death brought about by the war? Both Gil and Jerry were not in the peak of their health by the time, Gil with the gas damage and Jerry with his leg. Did the boys ever feel that this was just one more wound from the war? That they were the ones who were inadequate? Hmmm...

Pelley is a great villain. Him being a real person only makes him cooler, and I just love his insidiousness. No true idea what his endgame is (of course) but just the opening moves are interesting. Earlier comments on this thread have pointed to the politics and reincarnated souls, all of which are fascinating. An excellent choice. Though, I wonder. If some of the characters (real or fictional) in this series are really reincarnations of people from the past, who is Pelley? Some nobody who just happened to be born into the right life to make his bid for power, or is he someone of historical importance, reliving some past squabble, trying to right what he perceives might have been a wrong? (Reincarnation is a fascinating topic.)

On a lighter note, I was pleased to see Alma using the fur coat that Jerry won in the Race. I'd wondered about that.

Edited at 2014-02-18 07:29 am (UTC)
jo_graham
Feb. 18th, 2014 07:00 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad you love it! Wind Raker is finished and in first edits, so hopefully it will be out this year.

I think Gil believed the problem was him and that he wasn't in good enough health to give Alma the child she wanted. And so being Gil he arranged things! In this era before DNA testing, nobody would ever be sure. I think Gil did think he was inadequate. Jerry, on the other hand, never thought so. He's always thanked his lucky stars that some parts of him seemed to come out of this intact!

Pelley is scary. There's a scene with him in Wind Raker which Melissa says is the scariest thing I've ever written. His opening moves are really scary in part because he's waaaaay ahead of our guys! They really do not know what he's doing or what he's after. Some of you guys, like sockich, may guess a bunch of stuff, but the team has no idea. And of course you have hindsight! "The next big crisis in world affairs will begin in 1939." Well, yes. That would be World War II! But they have no idea that it will happen. You do, so you can see exactly how scary this is!

Who is Pelley? That's a really, really good question, and I'm not entirely certain myself. From the scene with Stasi in Wind Raker I was talking about above, I would guess that he's on the French side in the Napoleonic Wars, though not necessarily French himself as there were many allied troops on that campaign, and that he survived the Retreat from Moscow. That's my guess. I would also guess he came out on the winning side of the Roman Civil Wars because of one other line in that scene. But I don't actually know. I think the thing that scarred him so deeply is the events of the Napoleonic Wars. That's the thing he keeps coming back to. I think you're right that he's stuck on something, but I can only kind of partially see what. He's certainly very angry at Michel/George and blames him.

Alma loves that coat! :)
the_prawn
Feb. 22nd, 2014 06:47 pm (UTC)
Finished this afternoon, and I have to say through the whole last part of the book I was absolutely BEAMING. Mitch and Stasi! Baby Isadora! Love love love. I loved all the relationship stuff in this, how much fun Mitch and Stasi have together, Jerry and Alma and her pregnancy, and then seeing a little more into the past with Alma, Gil and Jerry too. I love how they're clearly all a little unconventional yet still of their time, their actions and beliefs don't feel incongruous.

The adventure and excitement played out on a smaller scale in some ways this time, but I liked it as it gave time for the relationship aspects to develop more. But there's the foreshadowing of bigger events to come as well, so this did feel like a calm before the storm kind of tale. I am scared now that Lewis is on limited time after Stasi's reading though :(

I guessed the person that Pelley was trying to summon might be linked to Gull etc, but sockich was more on the ball as I see above! I guess Pelley is hoping to harness the belief and power associated with Alexander/Napoleon etc in some way? To influence the outcome of the war? And somehow use Tesla's machine? Anyway I shall wait and see how things play out.

I am glad that the next book will hopefully be out this year, I am so excited to see what happens next :D
jo_graham
Mar. 4th, 2014 01:29 pm (UTC)
Oh! I just found this comment -- the notification must not have been delivered. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to reply.

I am so glad you liked Silver Bullet! Mitch and Stasi were so much fun to write, and they keep on being fun in the next books. I just love them so much.

Isadora, known as Dora, will be a character in the books to come. The past relationship of Alma/Gil/Jerry is fascinating to me. They're completely unconventional, but then people were. It just wasn't spoken of. And that's the point of the bit at the end with Tesla and the picture. I can't read Tesla's real letters back and forth with Robert and Katharine and NOT see a relationship. It's the only thing that makes emotional sense.

It was definitely a quieter story, staying mostly at home in Colorado rather than traveling the world. Next book they're off to Hawaii, and then Egypt in the one after, so it was time for some quiet. But oh Lewis. He knew at the end of Lost Things that he was Diana's priest until she called him. And of course the reader knows as Lewis doesn't for sure that there will be war. Lewis knows Diana will not spend him lightly.

I guess Pelley is hoping to harness the belief and power associated with Alexander/Napoleon etc in some way? To influence the outcome of the war?

Oh you are on the money! *grins widely* You are so on the money!
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