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Order of the Air and the Numinous World

A reader asks, "What's the relationship between your two series the Order of the Air and the Numinous World? Are they the same universe?"

Yes, both sets of books take place in the same world, but in different periods and with different sets of characters. Gull, in all her incarnations, is the main character of the Numinous World books, while The Order of the Air follows a different set of characters, Alma, Jerry, Mitch, Lewis and Stasi.

However, it is the same world, and sometimes things from one appear in another. For example, in the fifth Order of the Air book, Oath Bound, which I'm working on now, Jerry is supervising an archaeological dig in Alexandria. Readers of Hand of Isis and Stealing Fire will recognize some people and places. Demetria, the Adoratrice of Isis, mentioned in one of Jerry's records is Demetria from Hand of Isis, and we find out what happened to her in the rest of her life. The Alabaster Tomb that Jerry talks about, excavated in 1906, is the tomb of Lydias' family. And of course the visions or flashbacks to Berenice and to Alexander's funeral are the same as in Stealing Fire. There are also some details that connect less directly -- the Lochias Kouros, a statue Jerry worked on, makes a brief appearance in the short story Horus Indwelling as the statue in the courtyard of the Indian elephant captain.

Wind Raker, the next upcoming book, is the one with the most direct crossover! Gull and Neas both make a substantial appearance in Wind Raker, and there is a flashback to Alma's life in the era of the Elza books. Not to give away major plot in Wind Raker, but readers of the Numinous World books will have a leg up figuring out the villain's plans!

And yes, Gull and Neas' twentieth century incarnations will appear again in future books. I'm anticipating seeing them again in the sixth book, Fire Season.

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squishydish
Oct. 24th, 2014 06:03 am (UTC)
Outer Banks submarine warfare shipwrecks found
I ran across this article, possibly relevant to research for your Order of the Air book involving the Outer Banks:

October 21, 2014
"A team of researchers led by NOAA’s Office of National Marine Sanctuaries have discovered two significant vessels from World War II’s Battle of the Atlantic. The German U-boat 576 and the freighter Bluefields were found approximately 30 miles off the coast of North Carolina...
"The U-576 sank the Nicaraguan flagged freighter Bluefields and severely damaged two other ships. In response, U.S. Navy Kingfisher aircraft, which provided the convoy’s air cover, bombed U-576 while the merchant ship Unicoi attacked it with its deck gun. Bluefields and U-576 were lost within minutes and now rest on the seabed less than 240 yards apart...
"Few people realize how close the war actually came to America’s shores..."
More at the NOAA site
jo_graham
Oct. 30th, 2014 05:31 pm (UTC)
Re: Outer Banks submarine warfare shipwrecks found
I saw that! In fact I sent the link to Melissa, because it's definitely bearing on the plot of the seventh Order of the Air book, Invisible War! (Just as you remembered.)
squishydish
Nov. 1st, 2014 10:45 am (UTC)
Re: Outer Banks submarine warfare shipwrecks found
Also, this summer I saw an enlarged photo (4x6 feet or so) displayed at the Cape Fear Museum of History of a couple of WAC pilots who had been towing targets for gunners to practice on, and I thought about how brave that was, because after all the gunners could miss in the wrong direction.
One of them really fascinated me. The other was just a nice looking young woman, but this one was older, with little round glasses, kind of stereotypically schoolmarmish looking until I caught her expression, which seemed to be a barely suppressed, bubbing, inner glee. It seemed to be more than just excitement over getting away from the farm, or whatever her background was; I had the feeling, looking at her face, that she was utterly thrilled to finally be of use, finally really matter to something much bigger than her immediate family or local community. She couldn't openly beam, because after all this was war and people were dying, but some of her delight peeked through. At least, that's how I interpreted her expression.
It reminded me a bit of Alma, which is a little funny since after all, the woman in the photo was historically real. However, I think that having read about Alma and her thoughts and experiences, and her struggles to be taken seriously and allowed to do dangerous work, e.g. rescue spotting (aside from the Work of the Order), made me open to taking a little bit longer when I looked at that WACs photo, and so seeing something in that woman's expression that I might easily have overlooked otherwise.
So, I want to thank you and Melissa for your work and your books that help bring history alive, with subtle nuances that help make the big picture so much more rich and meaningful.
jo_graham
Nov. 26th, 2014 01:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Outer Banks submarine warfare shipwrecks found
Thank you so much! That's what we hoped -- that The Order of the Air would help bring it to life.
squishydish
Oct. 24th, 2014 06:25 am (UTC)
Elza (Charles) and trousers ban
Also, I've been meaning to ask for a long time, how did Elza react to/cope with it when the French banned trousers for women in 1800 (finally overturned in 2013)?
Did she get a special dispensation/pardon from Napoleon, or did she not worry about it as Charles was spying outside the country in Belgium or wherever, or did she just not worry about it since she didn't plan on getting caught?
Could the law have been secretly aimed at Napoleon by French rivals who wanted to undermine the effectiveness of one of his agents?
jo_graham
Oct. 30th, 2014 05:35 pm (UTC)
Re: Elza (Charles) and trousers ban
Well, that's one of those things that was technically illegal but barely enforced in the Empire. In fact, Napoleon himself decorated several women who fought dressed as men! And of course many of the things Elza is doing as a spy are illegal -- including breaking and entering.

I think the law was more about rejecting the cultural shifts of the Revolution, as people coming out of a decade of Terror and counter Terror wanted to feel like everything was getting back to normal. And remember, nobody bans something unless lots of people are doing it! There was no law against women wearing trousers under the Ancien Regieme because there was no need for one. The Revolution turned a lot of things upside down in a very few years, and did so with enormous violence and bloodshed. I think the law was aimed at reassuring people that not everything had changed.
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