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Third Path is out!

The Third Path is out! It's up for sale in ebook on Amazon and will follow on other websites as they update their sites. The paper copies will be about two weeks, as that's how long it takes to actually print and ship them. I can't wait to hear what you think, and I hope you enjoy this final chapter of the Legacy series.

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craterdweller
Jul. 16th, 2015 04:33 pm (UTC)
Amazon delivered my kindle copy around 9 pm yesterday - guess they use Eastern time as a standard - odd since they are headquartered here in Seattle. Love what I've read so far.
jo_graham
Jul. 17th, 2015 12:22 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you're enjoying it so far!
Shawn Edwards
Jul. 17th, 2015 01:52 am (UTC)
This was an excellent book! It closed some old stories and opened some new ones. I hesitate to post more and ask questions until more people have read the book so I will wait.

Vegetative power! What a concept. It's so cool to read about the everyday bureaucratic details about what to do with people who want to stay in Pegasus. It makes the work more real when we read these kind of details.
jo_graham
Jul. 17th, 2015 07:41 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! I think I'll start a spoilers post in a couple of days when people have had a chance to read it.

It's great that you like the plots about people who want to stay in Pegasus. We really wanted people to feel like the Atlantis personnel are regular people -- people maybe you went to high school with -- not superheroes.
Shawn Edwards
Jul. 17th, 2015 11:44 pm (UTC)
I know several who have served in the military. The way you treat the situations like Mel, Sheppard and others who are going native is so fair and realistic. I find it interesting that most of the administrators know that Sheppard's first loyalty is to Atlantis. I find it quite interesting that Woolsey's loyalties are no longer so clear cut. Atlantis leaves her mark all those live in it!

I wonder what makes Atlantis home for the different people such as Shep, Pollard, Rodney and Radek? Usually, it's the people or the wonder of discovery.
jo_graham
Jul. 20th, 2015 04:20 pm (UTC)
Good -- I'm really glad that's fair and realistic. Woolsey has changed a lot, and I think it shows.

Both, I think. The people -- the best people in the world -- and the wonder of it all. I've tried to find that wonder again, which I think familiarity sort of wears away as a series continues.
vickicass
Jul. 17th, 2015 06:33 am (UTC)
just finished reading it, there may of been tears.

very well written and i love how it makes you feel as you read though it. thanks so much for writing it.
jo_graham
Jul. 19th, 2015 01:06 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad you liked it. There are tears for me at the end too.
rodneyfan
Jul. 17th, 2015 05:07 pm (UTC)
I really enjoyed the series and feel that The third path really brings the series to a somewhat satisfactory close. The only thing I wish was expanded upon more was the relationship between rodney and jennifer I feel there is still more to that story and the ending between them didn't feel satisfying.
jo_graham
Jul. 19th, 2015 09:17 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you've enjoyed the series! Re: Jennifer and Rodney -- MGM doesn't like shipping. We've run into this with every couple, canon or not. We aren't really allowed to explore any relationship very much, and with Jennifer and Rodney we pushed it about as far as we could. I think there is more to be said, certainly, but as a writer I can't see any way to say it that MGM will approve. I'm sorry! :)
gelbes_gilatier
Jul. 17th, 2015 08:13 pm (UTC)
Finished it and loved it (although I have to agree with the commenter mentioning that there could have been more of Jennifer and Rodney's subplot in the story). I did call a couple decisions before they happened (e.g. shipping Ford to Earth to avoid breaking the agreement with the Wraith) but that actually just made it all better :D I also knew Ford had to be the Wolf and even though I wasn't that much of a Ford fan in the series, his bits were the most moving ones (especially the reunion with his grandparents. I nearly started crying at reading that).

And you were right, Lorne had an awesome plot (totally commended himself to be Shep's successor in a couple years, but that's just me ;)). I loved seeing Atlantis's "B team" solving a clusterfuck all on their own and getting some well-deserved limelight.

Surprisingly, Ronon's plot was another favorite. I was a little sceptical at first but the storytelling and pacing was excellent and Ronon really deserved his very own plot. I also loved Parrish's team (two questions: can Parrish's first name be considered "canon" now and is it a nod towards Jonathon Young's Sanctuary role? :D), especially Aulich and Joseph. I wish we could see more of them.

All in all, it's kind of bittersweet to see Legacy end (most of all because you created some really lovely new characters I'd love to see so much more of) but it was a good ending. I'm now going to look forward to the book series on Sam and the Hammond you mentioned in an earlier comment (so hoping it'll get picked up!).

Edited at 2015-07-17 08:14 pm (UTC)
jo_graham
Jul. 20th, 2015 04:19 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad you loved it ! I hope those decisions, like returning Ford to Earth, seemed sensible and organic. The scene with Ford and his grandparents made me cry writing it, and every single time since then. That's my scene, and I'm pleased with it. And you know, that's almost the first thing we see of the Atlantis expedition -- Ford's farewell to his grandparents. It made sense to me that could be almost the last thing too.

Melissa wrote Lorne's plot and I loved it. He got the short end of the stick there, and working with Ember was... challenging. But someone other than Lorne might not have been flexible enough to do it, and it needed to be done.

Parrish's first name is indeed a nod to Nikola! *grin* We're both huge Sanctuary fans. Also he couldn't really be Jon because then we'd have Jon and John and that would be confusing. So.

It is kind of bittersweet to end. I've been writing this for six years, and it's hard to say goodbye. Thank you for coming along for the ride!
little_firestar
Jul. 18th, 2015 09:37 am (UTC)
just got it!
jo_graham
Jul. 20th, 2015 04:21 pm (UTC)
I hope you enjoy it! :)
jansma
Jul. 18th, 2015 03:12 pm (UTC)
Read and enjoyed, but dare I say there wasn't enough Wraith. But then, there never is for my taste.

Btw, the minute the clock turned midnight, here in the UK, it appeared, just like a pumpkin, on my Kindle. I do believe I made a little squee noise. :P
jo_graham
Jul. 20th, 2015 04:25 pm (UTC)
There can always be more Wraith! :)

Though one doesn't get the impression Todd finds it entirely comfortable having a queen again. Alabaster may be daddy's girl, but she certainly doesn't always do what he advises!
jansma
Jul. 20th, 2015 07:40 pm (UTC)
No, indeed. And I bet it sticks in his craw. :D
Shawn Edwards
Jul. 22nd, 2015 02:44 am (UTC)
Be careful what you wish for!
asugar
Jul. 18th, 2015 11:45 pm (UTC)
I really enjoyed it. It was incredibly well written with the attention to details of culture, competency and character that I always expect of you and this series.

There was one part that kept me from rating it a favorite. It bummed me out that there were no real meaty John and Teyla scenes until the very end and none that acknowledged their relationship. I kept thinking the change in their relationship would come up in filling Elizabeth in on everyone at the very least. What happened? Did I miss something? Were they no longer together in this book? The gaps in the publishing schedule do leave me a bit fuzzy as to the details of each prior book without a reread.

I also wondered at the last question Teyla asks John! I didn't think that John's answer to that question was ever in doubt for anyone who even marginally knew him and it felt odd and out-of-character for intuitive Teyla to ask it. I'm curious rather than critical of the authorial choice, just to clarify, and hoped you'd be willing to explain.
jo_graham
Jul. 21st, 2015 01:09 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

No, you didn't miss anything. MGM would not put up with shippiness. We definitely meant that they were together, but we could not actually say so. So I tried to show in their scenes together the kind of relying on each other and being partners that I hoped conveyed it. I couldn't do anymore because MGM wouldn't allow it. In fact, there was a line in Inheritors about their future children that was cut at the last second.

I put that line in because I wanted it to be clear that John was staying and this was his commitment, and I couldn't do it any more clearly. I wanted it to be clear to the reader that John wasn't going back to Earth to stay -- now or ever. It's very difficult and frustrating to deal with MGM balking on actually progressing the characters forward, but this is a thing every tie-in writer deals with and it's kind of the rules of the game. But it's also one reason this is probably the last Legacy book. We can't keep going without actually progressing, and if we can't progress none of the three of us can see a way to write more books that make sense. We've had an amazing ride being able to move the characters forward this far, and we should stop while we're in a good place. Does that explain it?
asugar
Jul. 22nd, 2015 11:39 pm (UTC)
Thanks for such a thoughtful answer! Yes, that does explain it and makes a lot of sense.

I'm sad that MGM has refused to explore the Stargate universe further or allow anyone else to do so (while making them money). What a waste. It reminds me of my puppy, who snatches the toys from the mouth of the bigger, less dominant older dog; rather than play with the toy herself, she will then sit on the stolen toy and glare at him. Nobody gets to have fun!

I can't blame you for giving up (much like the older dog who refuses to touch any toy that the younger dog has ever taken from him) rather than dealing with obstructionist drama. Your additions to the canon were much appreciated. Thank you for everything. I hope one day in the future someone, hopefully you, is allowed to move these beloved characters forward.
jo_graham
Jul. 23rd, 2015 12:53 pm (UTC)
Well, I think most large franchises are very reluctant to "change the formula." MGM has been much more flexible than most in letting us move forward in Legacy as we have. But at the end of the day, we don't own the characters and we can't explore outside the boundaries or color outside the lines!

But of course we can in our own work. For example, Mitch in the Order of the Air (Melissa and my team series) goes a lot of the places I really wish I could go with Cam in Stargate but I know that I would never be allowed to. Actually, you might want to check out Lost Things, the first book in that series -- it's the same kind of team adventure that Melissa and I have done with Stargate and I think has some of the same feel.
Jeff Bednarik
Aug. 17th, 2017 03:24 am (UTC)

This is a little late, but I just found Stargate Atlantis a couple of years ago. I agree it is too bad if they do not let you explore relationships deeper. That is one of the best parts of good stories and they did a good job on the shows. Was it just romantic ships that MGM didn't want or was it any relationship such as teammates, family ,friends, etc.

If it was not for MGM's pistion, would you have continued with Keller and Mckay's romantic relationship or still have them breakup to give her a chance to find herself and what she wants like you guys did in Legacy?











mark_chevron101
Jul. 19th, 2015 12:10 am (UTC)
Future Stargate Novels
Will there be future SG-1 novels exploring the occurences of SGU from the SGC perspective?
jo_graham
Jul. 21st, 2015 01:10 pm (UTC)
Re: Future Stargate Novels
I'm sorry, but I have no idea. I'm not working on one, but I don't know if any other author is.
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